In this conversation, Ari Block interviews Jeff Man, who discusses his involvement with Hack for Kids, a nonprofit organization aimed at introducing children to cybersecurity and technology. Jeff emphasizes the importance of understanding the human and process aspects of cybersecurity, arguing that technology alone cannot solve security issues. He shares insights on the current cybersecurity landscape, the role of compliance and regulation, and the challenges of cybersecurity audits. Jeff also highlights common weaknesses in organizations, particularly the misconception that security can be outsourced, and the critical importance of key management in encryption.